G.I. Joe Classified Series: The Chatty Pointless Thread & Performance Art

docsilence said:
Yeah, I'm 100% behind them adding more women but I don't really want rehashed ideas of existing characters. They've created some gorgeous new figures for Classified and I think they have more bangers in them if they have the time and space to do it. I do think you're flagging good themes to add women characters to though - I'd love to see them create an original Native female character who doesn't take a spot away from existing Native representation, and especially if they make her not a cultural stereotype - think more Airborne than Spirit. We NEED an arctic Joe specialist who's female too since that particular area is a boy's club.

It would be absolutely hysterical if they gender-swapped the guy in the shirt that sounds like a Joe Rogan saying though, that would be hilarious.
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I used my darker skinned Marine Sniper female head as a headcannon Native girl related to Spirit. She doesn't look stereotypical at all for a Native, and that's why I think it works so well.

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AceofKnaves said:
Nah, I’m good with them changing He-man’s logo, too.
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I'm not.
I'm also, however, not good with allowing shitty people to co-opt everything and anything they want.

Regardless, the point remains that Salvo's shirt gets a lot more attention than He-Man's symbol. Weirdly.
 
Damien said:
Regardless, the point remains that Salvo's shirt gets a lot more attention than He-Man's symbol. Weirdly.
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I think it’s more a case of He-man’s symbol being a pretty common general image (with definite shitty co-opted implications), while Salvo’s slogan 1) looks like he wrote it on there himself and 2) is a blatantly-aggressive actual statement of bludgeoning intent of the kind Merlin warned Wart about in The Once And Future King. It feels like a real thing Pete Hegseth would write on his own t-shirt.

Look: Salvo was a cool ARAH figure and I actually really REALLY love the figure the Club put out. And it’s not like Cross-Country, where it’s like “throw the whole shitty traitor out”. But that shirt really does look like something intentionally worn to provoke, by the kind of raging real-world dickhead who’s looking forward to voting for Trump’s third term.
 
Let's make our own Steel Brigade characters!

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Ru1977 said:
Let's make our own Steel Brigade characters!

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I spent so much goddamned time filling that form out as a kid.

There's orders of magnitude with the He-Man symbol vs. the Salvo thing. He-Man is the main character of a beloved property wearing a symbol coopted by the Nazis and requires us to stare into the abyss of how shitty humanity is. Salvo's shirt just looks like something every try-hard guy at the gym with a glass jaw would wear so we can make fun of it and not address like, 75 years of cultural nightmare history on a side character who barely appeared in the cartoons or comics. It's "Jesus Christ that shirt is goofballs" versus "Christ humanity sucks to its very core."
 
I filled out the card for a sniper called Silent Death. That was Dad's idea. They cashed the check, but never sent me the figure.
 
To be air, this was the 80's. They could have sent it and it got lost in the mail and we'd never know. My dad did confirm they cashed the check (he's an accountant).
 
So true. I just in the last few years have stopped holding on to every receipt I get to balance my checkbook obsessively. The addiction gene came from dad for sure.
 
AceofKnaves said:
I think it’s more a case of He-man’s symbol being a pretty common general image (with definite shitty co-opted implications), while Salvo’s slogan 1) looks like he wrote it on there himself and 2) is a blatantly-aggressive actual statement of bludgeoning intent of the kind Merlin warned Wart about in The Once And Future King. It feels like a real thing Pete Hegseth would write on his own t-shirt.

Look: Salvo was a cool ARAH figure and I actually really REALLY love the figure the Club put out. And it’s not like Cross-Country, where it’s like “throw the whole shitty traitor out”. But that shirt really does look like something intentionally worn to provoke, by the kind of raging real-world dickhead who’s looking forward to voting for Trump’s third term.
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Let me be clear - Salvo's shirt is silly and dumb. My point is only that it's not so odious that, for instance, it needs to be changed/blanked out. That's my only argument; it's dumb but not so offensive that we need to be overly concerned about it in the same way people don't freak out every time a He-Man figure is talked about - despite the fact that we certainly -could- choose to get worked up about either one.

Although, I'd also be perfectly happy if they swapped it to 'The Might of Right' - which has quite different implications, and it's minor enough that I imagine even most die-hards wouldn't get that broken up about it.
 
Damien said:
Let me be clear - Salvo's shirt is silly and dumb. My point is only that it's not so odious that, for instance, it needs to be changed/blanked out.
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I totally get ya.
I *do* think it needs to be changed/blanked out (maybe *needs* is a strong word, but get rid of it), because it isn’t *necessary* and it’s aggressively lame and in poor taste for our current world.
Damien said:
Although, I'd also be perfectly happy if they swapped it to 'The Might of Right' - which has quite different implications, and it's minor enough that I imagine even most die-hards wouldn't get that broken up about it.
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I have often thought that this would be an elegant and subtle solution.

That said: with the amount of tantruming some folks did over Gung-Ho’s off-brand tattoo, maybe it would be a source of bitching. Still: it would be a good change.
 
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