DetectiveHoag
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Wasted slots & flat-out fails
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Akatsuki
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I don’t like the idea of wasted slots. As others have written earlier, any character could be somebody’s favorite and most wanted. For me, every Iron Man armor is a highlight of the year. I like having a positive attitude.
That said, Silver Centurion Iron Man could use a redo with a new wider torso, the larger pauldrons from the box set, and a better head and neck. And I think every Iron Man should have proportions like the Modular Armor figure.
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That said, Silver Centurion Iron Man could use a redo with a new wider torso, the larger pauldrons from the box set, and a better head and neck. And I think every Iron Man should have proportions like the Modular Armor figure.
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d2bruce
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altcunningham
Hooker with a heart of gold
Not so much here, but it's fun on other comment sections or in person at toy shows to Age Check people when they complain that a character is too new or a passing fad (Miles Morales and Gwen are over a decade old) or that they are tired of modern things when the Classics need to be made (Clone Saga or Onslaught are like 29 years ago, not Modern Stories, my dude).
Real examples from recent toy show chats, and people really hate facing mortality, geez.
bennroe
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See, I was happy they gave us 90s Toad. That's exactly the version I wanted. I have zero affinity for the 60s stories.
Here are the figures that disappointed me:
Avalanche (retro wave): what happened?
Cannonball (Wendigo wave): I get that they had to make hard choices with costs on this figure, and I honestly don't even mind not having legs (though I was happy to get the apology figure in the three-pack), but the included blast that's not even large enough to fully envelop his legs made me so sad
Ch'od (BAF): the hands are a bummer, but easily fixed
Cyber (Wolverine Villains): being so tall just to get re-use out of the Colossus body was a bit of a bummer; I don't know how they would have done it, but I would have loved to have seen him somehow take on the hunched physique of Sam Kieth art
Cyclops (Colossus wave): missing boots; a minor detail, but a bummer
Dark Beast (Sugar Man wave): I know he was depicted different ways in the comics, but I was sad they went with a head sculpt inspired by his depictions in one-offs, rather than in Factor X (where his hair was flatter and longer), since that was the main title he appeared in
Fang (Ch'od wave): I was surprised they didn't take the opportunity to include a Wolverine head, but even more surprised they decided to put him on a body that made him about a foot taller than Wolverine; I guess it's good for swapping on a Daken head, but weird choice...
Iceman (retro wave): bizarre head-sculpt
Jean Grey (retro X-Factor): it's not the worst, but the missing boots bother me too
Magneto (Family Matters): helmets sat far too high on their heads, and looked bizarre
Magneto (Jubilee wave): dead-eyed plastic looking portrait
Marvel Girl (Tri-Sentinel wave): I usually roll my eyes when people refer to a figure as a statue, but woof...
Omega Sentinel (Tri-Sentinel wave): her old-school head depicting a white woman with brown hair was about the most inexcusable thing I've seen in a Legends toy; I picked up an extra and painted the head, but I couldn't believe this
Rogue (Juggernaut wave/retro re-rerelease): just weird proportions and anatomy from top to bottom
Sabretooth (Bonebreaker wave): that portrait... and the artistic license on the open-finger gloves
Storm (retro Outback): Rogue's Outback hair was a little off, but not enough to bother me, but they didn't even try to get Storm's hair right on this one; the Toy Biz 5" figure from their very first wave did a better job
Wolverine (Apocalypse wave): weirdly proportioned mask
Wolverine (Jubilee wave): gangly, weird proportions and way too tall
But honestly, for the entirety of X-Men Marvel Legends since 2014, that's it, and that's not bad. These are the figures with issues so egregious they bothered me right away, but none of that matters when I see completely flawless figures like Deathbird, Destiny, Spiral, and the Haslab Sentinel (I know, I know, the knees... never really affected my ones, and has an easy fix). The vast majority of figures they do fall on the spectrum between good and fantastic, and they've put out favourite characters of mine like Chamber, Karma, and Magik (and nods again to Destiny and Spiral) that I never would have believed I'd get to see in articulated plastic. Hell, we could get classic Magik and Outback Psylocke this year! Anyway, didn't want to post that list without ending on a more upbeat note, because for all my complaints, I still think this toy line is mostly incredible.
TFitz
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Yeah, google is all kinds of wrong. Read any of the stories with him and he is a good foot taller than Spider-Man, hence the pics I posted. They aren't outliers, they are how tall he is, consistently, in the books.
Morlun (Earth-001)
71 appearance(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 8 appearance(s) in handbook(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 22 minor appearance(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 19 mention(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 8 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 58 image(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 9 quotation(s) by or about Morlun...
altcunningham
Hooker with a heart of gold
I'd say it's wrong if it doesn't consistently put him at being a lanky tall gangly goof looming over Peter.
This is why I don't put stock in the stats because comic characters tend to just stabilize into silhouette and "how many heads taller/shorter" rules.
This is why I don't put stock in the stats because comic characters tend to just stabilize into silhouette and "how many heads taller/shorter" rules.
Lucid Silverback
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I understand people's aversion to the idea of "wasted slots" and I agree it does sound a bit dismissive. Sorry about that phrasing. However, to clarify my particular position, I'm not saying certain figures shouldn't be made; everyone has their own wishlist and holy grail figure that they feel deserve to be immortalized in plastic. What I'm saying is they should all be provided appropriate platforms in order to maximize efficiency and get people the stuff they want in short order.
Take MCU stuff for example; most ML enthusiasts prefer they not be mixed into BaF assortments, and many prefer they not be mixed into regular waves either. Hasbro seems to have gotten that message and currently produce waves that are exclusively MCU. Bravo!
Personally, I'd like to see separate lines for EVERY category of offerings, each with its own respective branding. And while Hasbro are already doing that to some extent (e.g., X-Men '97, Gamerverse etc.), I would like to see them go all-in and create another handful of tandem lines and ramp-up production. So, effectively we'd have a line called ML "Cinematic" run parallel to a line called ML "Bronze Age" and ML "90s" and ML "Modern" and ML "From-the-Racks" and even ML "Western" or ML "Monsters". Heck, we could even have a line of ML "Obscurities" comprised of crystal warriors and weird one-offs no one has ever heard of. Lol
I get some people appreciate the variety in the ML line (and I do too) but, under the current model, as we've already seen, essential characters or versions will consistently fail to be made in lieu of other options because they're all vying for position in the same line. If you're a 90s kid, wouldn't you prefer an entire wave comprised of desirable figures as opposed to the slow drip of releases you currently endure? Same goes for 2000s and especially silver age enthusiasts; at the rate we're going, you'll be lucky if you EVER see Hammond Torch or a Whizzer or whatever. But start a line of ML "Silver Age" and three years later you should have a solid shelf or two of kick ass silver-age figures. I mean just look at X-Men '97 enthusiasts; they already have solid collection and it's only been what, two years?
I just think accelerated streamlining would benefit everybody.
Take MCU stuff for example; most ML enthusiasts prefer they not be mixed into BaF assortments, and many prefer they not be mixed into regular waves either. Hasbro seems to have gotten that message and currently produce waves that are exclusively MCU. Bravo!
Personally, I'd like to see separate lines for EVERY category of offerings, each with its own respective branding. And while Hasbro are already doing that to some extent (e.g., X-Men '97, Gamerverse etc.), I would like to see them go all-in and create another handful of tandem lines and ramp-up production. So, effectively we'd have a line called ML "Cinematic" run parallel to a line called ML "Bronze Age" and ML "90s" and ML "Modern" and ML "From-the-Racks" and even ML "Western" or ML "Monsters". Heck, we could even have a line of ML "Obscurities" comprised of crystal warriors and weird one-offs no one has ever heard of. Lol
I get some people appreciate the variety in the ML line (and I do too) but, under the current model, as we've already seen, essential characters or versions will consistently fail to be made in lieu of other options because they're all vying for position in the same line. If you're a 90s kid, wouldn't you prefer an entire wave comprised of desirable figures as opposed to the slow drip of releases you currently endure? Same goes for 2000s and especially silver age enthusiasts; at the rate we're going, you'll be lucky if you EVER see Hammond Torch or a Whizzer or whatever. But start a line of ML "Silver Age" and three years later you should have a solid shelf or two of kick ass silver-age figures. I mean just look at X-Men '97 enthusiasts; they already have solid collection and it's only been what, two years?
I just think accelerated streamlining would benefit everybody.
Stoopid_Sandwich
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The problem with that logic is despite your best intentions most of the time those D-Z listers tend to pegwarm look at Icarus for example or most of the Midnight sons wave. Outside of Dracula and Damien Hellstrom I think the wave limped its way to the clearance rack
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altcunningham
Hooker with a heart of gold
I think even the discussions on this forum show that you can't make all the fans happy all of the time, even when they make those characters or acknowledge the era.
TFitz
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What @altcunningham said below your post.So this is wrong too?Morlun (Earth-001)
71 appearance(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 8 appearance(s) in handbook(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 22 minor appearance(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 19 mention(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 8 mention(s) in handbook(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 58 image(s) of Morlun (Earth-001) 9 quotation(s) by or about Morlun...marvel.fandom.com
I'd say just go read one of the stories and look at him. The 2 pics I posted were from 2 different artists from 2 different stories. He's def. taller than 6' 2". You could argue somewhere between 8-12" taller than Spidey because "art", but for any site to say Morlun is just 4" taller than Spider-Man (5' 10") is just completely wrong. I want a Morlun with the height (not build) of Gladiator.
It sounds like what you want might need an all new sculpt. I don't think any existing sculpt in dress clothes is that tall, except maybe the latest Tombstone, which seems too bulky for the character. I know Morlun is a key player in JMS' Amazing run, and in Spiderverse. I've read both, and never really noticed his height being nearly a foot taller than Peter. Maybe it's Hasbro making its typical shortcuts just to get a character on the shelves. There are a good handful that are either too tall or too short or not thick enough or not thin enough.