General Marvel Legends

altcunningham said:
Is this not the same Kitty to Yana age gap if you remove Limbo time shit.
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Well, I'm not sure removing the Limbo stuff really counts. Illyana didn't magically turn older in seconds...she actually lived for years in Limbo, and when she returns as a young woman she has maturity and experience. Kitty's interactions with her prior to her going into Limbo are very much appropriate, and the dynamic between them changes after that point. From Kitty's point of view, Illyana is almost a brand new person she is meeting for the first time. Sure, she knows on an intellectual level that this is the little girl she befriended, but the Illyana that comes out of Limbo is completely different and possibly older than Kitty physically and emotionally.
 
yojoebro82 said:
Maybe just stay away from the sexual stuff, Whedon?
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The unfortunate irony of art is that the men least qualified to be in charge of sexual stuff are frequently the ones pushing hardest to make the sexual stuff happen.

Also At this point Whedon is so resoundingly ick that it splashes back on everything he ever did and makes all his “moments” sus as hell.

I firmly believe sexual stuff in art has to come from a place of “safety”, and Joss ain’t it and never was.
 
Magik and Kitty are dating now?

For a set of looks Hasbro has really gone all-in for, seeing them cheap out on Kitty at the end is really disappointing. She gets one new chest piece and... that's it. No boots (Colossus got his!), no seam continuing down her torso, no keyed-in belt so it stays put, her teeny, tiny fists, no alt phasing parts, same old won't-attach-easily and gotten it four? times before Lockheed - in a two-pack.

I appreciate Steve Evans' enthusiasm for the product he oversees. He cares about toys and that's a 100% win. Is he selling a stupid product in this instance? Absolutely. (oh, and to whoever told me Ironheart doesn't say "I love you 3000" - thanks. Not my point). This product probably needed no fan fair at all. Steve really likes what he really likes, which makes him just like us.
 
Schizm said:
Magik and Kitty are dating now?

For a set of looks Hasbro has really gone all-in for, seeing them cheap out on Kitty at the end is really disappointing. She gets one new chest piece and... that's it. No boots (Colossus got his!), no seam continuing down her torso, no keyed-in belt so it stays put, her teeny, tiny fists, no alt phasing parts, same old won't-attach-easily and gotten it four? times before Lockheed - in a two-pack..
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I didn't notice how hard Hasbro Habroed on Kitty until you pointed this out. Ugh.....bummer.

I have been reading the Magik comic and no mention of her dating Kitty. But you never really know, I guess.
 
I know for a fact Whedon has never experienced the joy of sexual intercourse.

How do I know this you ask?

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Schizm said:
Magik and Kitty are dating now?
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No, we're a ways off from that. Marvel finally confirmed that Kitty's bi.

The Kitty x Rachel and Kitty x Illyana stuff has been subtextual and... less subtextual for a long time now.
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She also kissed her tattoo artist, who does not look like Magik at all.
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Schizm said:
For a set of looks Hasbro has really gone all-in for, seeing them cheap out on Kitty at the end is really disappointing... no alt phasing parts
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I was thinking about this last night. How many Kitty figures have we gotten? None of them allow you to show off her powers without breaking the figure. How about a Kitty that pops apart at the waist, Hasbro? I'd love to have her phasing through my display cabinet.
CTV said:
Rachel was also boning Nightcrawler during X-Men: Gold which was also terrible.
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Yep. Rachel is a lesbian.
 
TheGillMan said:
Well, I'm not sure removing the Limbo stuff really counts. Illyana didn't magically turn older in seconds...she actually lived for years in Limbo, and when she returns as a young woman she has maturity and experience. Kitty's interactions with her prior to her going into Limbo are very much appropriate, and the dynamic between them changes after that point. From Kitty's point of view, Illyana is almost a brand new person she is meeting for the first time. Sure, she knows on an intellectual level that this is the little girl she befriended, but the Illyana that comes out of Limbo is completely different and possibly older than Kitty physically and emotionally.
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I'm trying to wrap my head around the implications of that and if it makes it better or way worse? From Kitty's perspective, Illyana would have been a child until half a second ago. Does it actually make it *less* creepy if she becomes interested in dating her after she suddenly steps out of Limbo as an adult? Of course a lot of it is in the execution and the details of their actual relationship over the years, just trying to make sense of it.
 
The idea of Kitty/Illyana is gross imo, way worse than Kitty/Piotr. I do always wonder why Wolverine gets off scot-free in these discussions since he's 100+ years older than all of his love interests bar Mystique.
 
CTV said:
Or on, if you paid attention to the architecture of the Summer House during the Krakoan era.
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While Mists of Avalon-style shenanigans definitely happened then, I always imagine Logan constantly popping his head into Jean’s room and going “heeeeey Jeannie—oh, uh, yeah heeeeey Scott . . . you, uh, sticking around, Slim? Huh. Yeah, no, yeah, that’s cool, definitely cool. Say, uh . . . any particular times of the day when you are busy and Jean is, well, free? Sigh. Yeah, I brought the KY.”
 
They backtracked so hard on Scott/Jean/Logan being a throuple (with Scott continuing to see Emma) so hard, it was embarrassing how the fanbase reacted to that like it was the most scandalous thing that could ever happen. Granted, I live in New York so maybe I'm just more used to that kind of thing happening around me but still
 
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