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I think 'not enough people get featured at a time' is a -wrestling- problem more than an AEW problem. WWE does it just as much (they just have more weekly hours of content is all). I think my biggest disappointment with AEW is that they really set themselves up as a company that cared about both long form story telling and really good wrestling. And I feel like the last year or so has shown them collapse onto their faces on both.

They've abandoned tons of storylines (or done them so badly that no one even wanted them to continue, or done them so badly that even the wrestlers involved wanted to leave the fucking company), and they've slid way too far into relying on hardcore-style matches to make up for just not doing interesting things. I don't know what happened, but I want like 2023 AEW back.
 
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Ru1977 said:
Sorry if you guys already knew this:
Wrestling legend Mick Foley parts ways with WWE over its Trump ties, cites Rob Reiner remarks as 'final straw'

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I saw that and understand it, but I am curious as to what he expected - the leaders of WWE will not reject the current administration given Linda is a cabinet member, even if they wanted to (and I don't think they want to) - I mean if my Mom or Mother-in-Law was a cabinet member and I disagreed with her, I doubt I could bring myself to publicly undercut her by saying so. I will say I really haven't see anything in the product that has changed to be MAGA-fied or be political? They aren't (so far) curtailing current heel Becky Lynch from doing a Trump truth social satire...

Never has been the most progressive of industries.
 
AEW does some stuff I like, they're finally getting better about featuring women more often than they did in 2023 or earlier, but it's still embarrassing it took them that long
 
Damien said:
I think 'not enough people get featured at a time' is a -wrestling- problem more than an AEW problem. WWE does it just as much (they just have more weekly hours of content is all).
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This is why having no-name jobbers who didn't have much of a character, no real promos, allowed the top stars could to have matches with little stakes an squash someone and it made the matches against other stars seem more special. But they've made characters out of just about everyone now, so it seems like everyone needs a storyline and has fans - when many are really jobbers with a backstory.
 
fac said:
This is why having no-name jobbers who didn't have much of a character, no real promos, allowed the top stars could to have matches with little stakes an squash someone and it made the matches against other stars seem more special. But they've made characters out of just about everyone now, so it seems like everyone needs a storyline and has fans - when many are really jobbers with a backstory.
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I think this is a result of everyone viewing wrestling as a celebrity thing rather than a job. If you look at guys like Stevie Richards; he was more than happy to just go out and lose matches because that was his JOB. It wasn't about becoming famous and finding a way to transition into a 'brand' or become an actor. Wrestling itself was the end goal career and he left his ego at the door.

Most wrestlers now don't seem capable of doing that. BUT TO BE FAIR, I get why they all want back-up plans rather than the old back-up plan of just being crippled at 65 and still wrestling.
 
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well, yes, but also everyone of them was still doing everything they could to connect with the fans and get over.

like 'Jobber with backstory' Is like, everyone in AEW was that at some point. and a lot of times some of my fave indie wrestlers get a shot at AEW and I get annoyed cause they treat them like jobbers
 
Jolene00Negative said:
well, yes, but also everyone of them was still doing everything they could to connect with the fans and get over.
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The wrestlers were trying to get over, but the promotion wasn't trying to help them or sell their merchandise. I think that's why you had wrestlers go through multiple "characters" back in the day until one hit - with the characters more grounded (no wrestling IRS agents or dentists) they really can't bring someone back as a whole new character, just tweak it a bit or flip from face to heel.

Ultimately even with a 6 hours of programming to fill each week, you can only have so many leads in the story.
 
fac said:
The wrestlers were trying to get over, but the promotion wasn't trying to help them or sell their merchandise. I think that's why you had wrestlers go through multiple "characters" back in the day until one hit - with the characters more grounded (no wrestling IRS agents or dentists) they really can't bring someone back as a whole new character, just tweak it a bit or flip from face to heel.
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I would argue that you don't necessarily need a re-package to get over. Some people just need a good story. I think AEW is the biggest culprit here where people go from jobber to main event BACK to jobber just based on the quality of the story being told with them.


fac said:
Ultimately even with a 6 hours of programming to fill each week, you can only have so many leads in the story.
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Yup.


Jolene00Negative said:
yea, and of course WWE famously hated if you got popular without their say so
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Fuck, they STILL hold it against Matt Cardona.
 
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