Super 7 Ultimates Thread

[Damien]

I wouldn't sweat this too much. I believe it's less a "We will NEVER do these characters" and more so that they're starting where DST left off to avoid immediate redundancy. They'd be stupid not to do Omni-Man, Atom Eve, etc and I think they know this, I'd be surprised if we don't see some overlap with DST in the next wave.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they specifically said that DST designs weren't off the table, but they didn't want to start there and just be re-treading ground. Totally sensible.

I mean isn’t that what Disney did to Super7?

“Fine! We’ll do basic family members starting in wave 5 and finally make Marge and Lisa!”
“LOL! Get wrecked, dorks!” (Rips the license out of their hand and hands to Jaks… Jazware? I honestly don’t give a shit and it doesn’t matter)

Although, double checking you’re probably absolutely right Jada’s fine… they announced the license in 2025 and there’s no way in Hell Amazon/Skybound whoever expected product out in 6 months before stripping the license anyway, unless Jada had been quietly sitting on the license for like three years not producing anything in secret.

I think the Disney stuff was way more complicated and involved Super7 not meeting sales numbers required for the license or something like that. In such a case, Super7 comes up in violation of the contract, and therefore Disney can simply choose to cancel it.

 

[fac]

Yeah, I assume that Disney was wondering why they had given the license to a company that was only producing 6 figures a year.

I am still bitter that they screwed up Robin Hood, wasted time on Nightmare Before Christmas, didn't have the sense to do the pigs in the same wave as the Big Bad Wolf, or Lilo with Stitch, and how they confused the market by offering the Rescuers in two different scale.

Edit - and gave us only one mop and bucket with Fantasia Mickey. Now I am just aggravated again.

 

[Damien]

Forget bitter. I'm actively depressed at what they did with Robin Hood. That property is another dream toyline of mine that seems like it's destined to never actually happen. And getting that one glimpse of what could be was probably worse than never getting anything at all.

But yeah, their entire approach to the Disney license was fucking bizarre and actually incredibly stupid, short-sighted, and probably would have failed miserably even if it wasn't riddled with their standard quality control and lazy design philosophy.

 

[SalemCrow]

I think the Disney stuff was way more complicated and involved Super7 not meeting sales numbers required for the license or something like that. In such a case, Super7 comes up in violation of the contract, and therefore Disney can simply choose to cancel it.

I'm pretty sure it had something like this to do with them having the license yanked from them. I saw the post before work but didn't have the chance to say the same thing.

I'm pretty sure part of these deals is the company making the product promises they'll make X amount from the line, and the license holder gets whatever cut of that they've agreed on.

 

[Misfit]

Disney may have also simply told Super7 they weren't going to renew the license when it was up or approve any new designs essentially killing it in advance. Even if it would have been legally questionable, what's Super7 going to do about it? Sue Disney? Good luck with that.

 

[Damien]

I'm pretty sure part of these deals is the company making the product promises they'll make X amount from the line, and the license holder gets whatever cut of that they've agreed on.

Yep - that is part of most of these licensing deals. You can't just be awarded a license and not do anything with it. The licensor is basing their entire decision on the expectation of monetary benefit. You've got to both MAKE and SELL product, at a certain rate, to be compliant with the terms of the contract.
If Super7 misrepresented the scale of their operation or how many units they could move per year (I'm POSITIVE they did), then Disney would be legally entitled to yank the license and Super7 would be lucky to get out of it without a financial penalty - which also exist sometimes in these types of contracts (so I am told).

Disney may have also simply told Super7 they weren't going to renew the license when it was up or approve any new designs essentially killing it in advance. Even if it would have been legally questionable, what's Super7 going to do about it? Sue Disney? Good luck with that.

There's also that. We live in a deeply corrupt society. Even if you are 100% in the legal right, your chances of beating a corporation the size of Disney in court is fairly small. Someone the size of Hasbro? Okay.. they might try it if Disney pulled some -obviously- illegal bullshit with the Star Wars license, for instance. Hasbro is big enough, and the property is lucrative enough, to make that worth pursuing. But Super7? With a license they were barely using? Against a corporation that can hire ten times as many lawyers as Super7 with its fucking pocket change? Probably definitely no.

 

[RexMason]

SPeaking of, I would totally buy those Tigersharks figures if they weren't $65 dollars and had actual variants for their non-transformed looks rather than just alternate heads. Oh well!

Yeah, I'm still planning on buying a Mako, but the non-transformation body is a bummer. At $65, I wish they had a solution for that. I do appreciate that the toy looks are the bonus bundle option, though, as I have no real desire for the toy options, and it saves me from having to buy from Super 7 directly.