Star Wars Black Series

My Kyle is supposed to come today but it's not out for delivery yet so IDK. Granted I have had Amazon send things out for delivery late and still have them arrive so who knows? I'll not be able to open him until the weekend anyway because I'm not at home so I guess it doesn't really matter. I'm looking forward to seeing him next to the deluxe dark trooper. Even though Kyle looked different in dark forces and this isn't a dark forces dark trooper it's close enough. I also don't know where else to display him other than there unless I decided to make a legends shelf. Although I only have dash and mara Jade ( and malak and Reven) I guess to display them with. I guess I could fudge in the rebels thrawn as well. 🤔
 
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Hmmm. I dunno. I'm pretty sure anyone who doesn't entirely agree with my often niche, strange, and overly convoluted taste and opinions on things is a big dumb doodoo butthead.

I too appreciate Damien's passive threats of ass-whoopery. If you don't rub your dog's nose in its poop every now and then, it's just gonna keep producing shit where you don't want it, right? :ROFLMAO:
 
I've been a Star Wars fan since I saw the original film in the theater in 1977, at the age of six. That said, I'm constantly baffled at the "fans" who really seem to actively hate Star Wars. Many fandoms have their toxic elements, but damn does SW corner the market on the truly venomous, hyperbolic nutjobs.
 
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If anyone has Kyle in hand and the mandoloran series dark trooper can you please take a picture of them together? Just want to see how they look together. If no one can that's fine and I might take my own comparison pics when I get home
 
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TheGillMan said:
I've been a Star Wars fan since I saw the original film in the theater in 1977, at the age of six. That said, I'm constantly baffled at the "fans" who really seem to actively hate Star Wars. Many fandoms have their toxic elements, but damn does SW corner the market on the truly venomous, hyperbolic nutjobs.
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I read Glen Weldon’s book “The Caped Crusade” about Batman fandom last year and was surprised to discover that there were Bat-fans in the 1960s who hated the TV show because the believed the real Batman was supposed to be dark and gritty and serious. Science fiction fans also had a negative response to Star Trek, and there have been some good analyses suggesting the main reason for that response is that it drew in female fans.

I think most fandoms had a golden age in the early days of the Internet in the mid to late 1990s with the rise of bulletin boards and forums. But around the turn of the century, we began to see those communities go bad in the way almost all online communities eventually do. It becomes all about gatekeeping, “true fans,” feeling they own their particular understanding of their favorite franchise and any new interpretations are invalid, and so forth.
 
I agree on the mid- to late-'90s golden age. Especially with Star Wars, it was a fun time with all the non-movie stuff going on.

Part of when things took a turn for the worse with Star Wars was the release of Phantom Menace. Surprisingly, it was very divisive in those days and quickly turned into OG fan versus Prequel fan.
 
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I agree on the mid- to late-'90s golden age. Especially with Star Wars, it was a fun time with all the non-movie stuff going on.

Part of when things took a turn for the worse with Star Wars was the release of Phantom Menace. Surprisingly, it was very divisive in those days and quickly turned into OG fan versus Prequel fan.
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The prequels were kind of a perfect storm to mess up the fandom.

First, the franchise caesura between the mid-‘80s and 1999 ensured an entire generation of fans (who had grown up making their own stories with their action figures) had their own ideas of the prequel story (I know I did). The films could almost certainly never live up to the movies in our minds. (To me, for example, Yoda should always have been the old wise hermit you go to see to get trained - not Principal Weatherbee a mere 20 years before ESB.)

Second, the films themselves were not great, to put it mildly. There were some good ideas and some great designs, but the dialogue and acting were all bad, and I put that primarily on Lucas’s shoulders and not the actors’. Lucas shouldn’t have directed the movies himself, and he really needed some people around him who could say “that’s a bad idea, George” (whom he’d listen to).

Finally, the prequels were aimed at kids in a way that - no matter what George says - the original films just weren’t (ESB is not a film *just* for children). It’s very clear now that an entire generation of young kids grew up on the prequels and love them now, but us old farts who lived through that long drought just couldn’t view the prequels outside the context of the original films. The original films circumscribed our experience of the prequels in a way they just didn’t for the children who saw them.

What’s interesting is in a couple of decades, I strongly suspect the sequels will get rehabbed by creatives who were kids in 2015-2019 (especially female fans). (That said, as an OT fan I don’t know I can ever come around on the sequels, given the depressing fates my heroes came to and the fact they couldn’t get Luke, Leia and Han in the same room over three films. Inexcusable.)
 
I do wonder if the sequels will ever get rehabbed. I fully admit to having a complete mental retcon/rewiring for me of the prequels by the Clone Wars and Rebels - the films honestly feel like a couple of messy bookends to a fucking amazing long-form story now, but I was pretty annoyed at them when they first came out. I'm also more critical of the sequels than the prequels so the lens is tinted rosier for me now.

But there's some good bones in Rey and Finn and Poe. There's some problems (the in-story time between movies, etc) that the sequels have that the prequels didn't, but who knows. A good writing team can fix A LOT.

Anyway - got Kyle and Dooku tonight. They are AMAZING. I wish Kyle had a swappable left hand because his left is sort of "use the force-y" and I'd like to better be able to have him hold blaster and saber at the same time, but it can work.

Dooku... okay I'm totally a Dooku fan based on his Tales of... stories, he's so much more complex and interesting because of those, and this figure is absolutely perfect. My only complaint is I honestly don't know who to put him with! I've been thinking a lot about stray non-trilogy characters and who they'd have encountered, so it's kinda fun to think about maybe Kyle and Ezra actually meeting up? Or could Quinlan and a young Cobb Vanth have met? But young Dooku I just don't know. Yoda and Mace, for sure, Ki-Adi-Mundi, but who else? Honestly looking for ideas rather than complaining because this is one of my favorite figures in a long time.
 
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