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The rumor du jour: A teaser for Avengers Doomsday will play before Avatar Fire and Ash in December.

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Trailer Description Reveals A Big Doctor Doom Twist: "[Downey] Went Full Universal Monster"

A possible description for the Avengers: Doomsday trailer expected to play in front of Avatar: Fire and Ash has been revealed, and it both reveals what we'll see and an interesting Doctor Doom twst...

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Interesting. Still think this will be...

Spoiler: Doom speculation

...some alternate version of Stark. Maybe he doesn't escape from the 10 Rings unscathed to become Iron Man in the first place, Loki and the Chitauri won? Or maybe he tried to use the gauntlet against Thanos and failed, but he survived in a universe where Thanos won and Pepper and his daughter were snapped? Play into his instinct to build an armor to keep himself alive, his overconfidence in himself, his desire to control things - what does that man become if he fails at being a hero?

 

[AceofKnaves]

I will be absolutely crestfallen if Doom is anyone but Victor Von Doom. Any direct connection to Tony Stark will make me *furious*.

 

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Interesting, as to me it could play directly into your view of who Stark was in the MCU (arrogant, fascist), just with no constraints and fueled by anger or despair. Kind of how in What If? they made a version of Dr Strange who became obsessed the bad guy. Maybe a Stark who couldn't use technology to change the past, so he tries sorcery?

I wouldn't even be thinking about this apart from the casting of course and honestly your take on Stark. But given the casting, and the fact that Doom is so far a non-entity in the MCU, I think there is meat on that bone of Dark Tony.

 

[AceofKnaves]

Doctor Doom is my favorite Marvel character. My *only* stake in this film is him finally being done well and in-character. I don’t have any stake in the MCU narrative at all, I can’t stress enough that I have absolutely zero investment in the overall story of the films, so I’m just here for a good Doom.

And, honestly, I think the comic version of Doom would be disgusted by MCU Tony Stark.

Regardless, Tony Stark is not Victor Von Doom, nor should he be. If Doom is a Stark variant, I’ll walk out of the film.

Now, if they reveal that MCU Stark was a flawed DOOM variant . . . well, that could redeem the whole MCU for me. But really, honestly, I’m beyond tired of the “variant” thing. I want DOCTOR DOOM, the monarch of Latveria, the master of science and sorcery, son of Cynthia, rival of Reed Richards, arrogant but *noble*, a prisoner of his obsession with revenge and control. MCU Stark is too small, too weak, too sniveling and insignificant to be Doom.

 

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