Marvel Cinematic Universe Figure Discussion

I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or any thing, but if you're trying to intentionally make something fail then is how you go about trying to accomplish that....
 
Schizm said:
It was a dumb idea to release these things on the same day. Once one studio started teasing, the other should have immediately backed off and rescheduled.

It's like why is Ready or Not 2 coming out against Project Hail Mary? Both could be #1s. And why is the Zazie Beetz hotel version of Ready or Not coming out one week after the same movie? And why are Dune and Doomsday coming out on the same day?

These are million dollar bad decisions that make no sense for the *audience*. And yet - modern day Hollywood.
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It's a tale as old as time- the Cinematic Clone Wars, if you will. Studios release projects that are very similar in story- A Bug's Life vs. Antz, for example. Inevitably, one of them is going to "win" the battle, but neither is prepared to lose. Sometimes you'll get a studio that relents and moves its release date a week or so, other times you have companies who stay stupidly steadfast and want the competition, like Dune and Doomsday this year. It's ultimately all a corporate dick measuring contest.

Or, like Reno said, they don't have faith in a movie and want a quick, easy tax write-off.
 
Right, like when they did Like Father Like Son, Vice Versa, and Big all at the same time. Or the summer they heard Cameron was doing an underwater alien movie so we also got Leviathon, Deep Star Six, and a couple others before Abyss was even released. Sometimes we get competing Wyatt Earp movies.
 
My favs are when the super low budget studios like Asylum put out a rushed, schlocky knock-off with very similar cover art to come out around the same time as the real thing's home media release. They just count on people who don't pay attention or don't know what they're buying to get their sales. It's not "Transformers", it's "Transmorphers". It's not "The Da Vinci Code", it's "The Da Vinci Treasure".

If nothing else, I respect the hustle.
 
I just had to explain “Dracula: the ORIGINAL Living Vampire”, an Asylum title that keeps popping up on Tubi.
“It’s cuz Morbius was morbing at the time, honey, ‘living vampire’, yadda yadda.”
“Oh. That’s dumb.”
“Yep.”
 
Schizm said:
It was a dumb idea to release these things on the same day. Once one studio started teasing, the other should have immediately backed off and rescheduled.

It's like why is Ready or Not 2 coming out against Project Hail Mary? Both could be #1s. And why is the Zazie Beetz hotel version of Ready or Not coming out one week after the same movie? And why are Dune and Doomsday coming out on the same day?

These are million dollar bad decisions that make no sense for the *audience*. And yet - modern day Hollywood.
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I don't think Ready or Not 2 or Project Hail Mary are super concerned about each other, being differently rated films of wildly different appeals. I think RoN2 was originally supposed to come out the week after, but running against They Will Kill You likely would have meant cannibalizing each other's audience, which is a concern even for the more established title. But the thing is, RoN2 could only be pushed up so much, because of Scream 7. And horror usually has steep holdover drops, but it feels like they correctly predicted that Scream 7 would sustain well, which I'm pretty sure the past couple of Screams did.

I don't think it's going to be super reliant on being a #1. The original Ready or Not also had a pretty sustained holdover period due to good word-of-mouth, so if they're banking on that again, getting out in front of TWKY isn't the worst possible plan, especially when they could potentially do a better than average third weekend due to Easter and increased theater traffic for Mario. Horror's just in a boom period, there aren't many weekends where you're not going to get competition.
 
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Quite frankly, I want Doomsday to fail for the obvious greed and cash grab nature that it stinks of to me. Dune Part 3 deserves to be a huge success. Doomsday is just going to be pandering nonsense. I hope Dune Part 3 has more hype, and that it reflects in the BO
 
Just being honest. I love the MCU, but I hate basically everything about Doomsday at this point and it just reeks of everything I think is wrong with franchise IPs right now
 
erock said:
Quite frankly, I want Doomsday to fail for the obvious greed and cash grab nature that it stinks of to me. Dune Part 3 deserves to be a huge success. Doomsday is just going to be pandering nonsense. I hope Dune Part 3 has more hype, and that it reflects in the BO
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How do you know Dune 3 deserves to be a big success before seeing it?
 
I’m as skeptical of the MCU as anyone, and more than most, but since Doomsday is getting released no matter what I honestly hope it’s *good*. Like yeah the stunt casting is pathetic and the super-duper-monster-mash thing is troubling, but I still hope they stick the landing somehow and it leads to better and more diverse MCU projects going forward.
 
AceofKnaves said:
I’m as skeptical of the MCU as anyone, and more than most, but since Doomsday is getting released no matter what I honestly hope it’s *good*. Like yeah the stunt casting is pathetic and the super-duper-monster-mash thing is troubling, but I still hope they stick the landing somehow and it leads to better and more diverse MCU projects going forward.
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I just don't see any possible way it's going to be good. IW and EG had great builds and stuck the landing. Doomsday has essentially no build cause they had to pivot hardcore from the KD concept. So now, they not only have to stick the landing on the event....they essentially have to invent it. With like 100 characters no less, and the fact that we are back to shoehorning RDJ in as a desperate gamble and brining all the OGs back and making X-Men costumes central to the marketing blitz, it just tells me this has nothing there except things for cheap pops. It has Rise of Skywalker energy to me, and I very much hate it. If I end up being wrong, that's fine and I will admit that. But I would be more than shocked to be. This feels like a desperate movie
 
AceofKnaves said:
I’m as skeptical of the MCU as anyone, and more than most, but since Doomsday is getting released no matter what I honestly hope it’s *good*. Like yeah the stunt casting is pathetic and the super-duper-monster-mash thing is troubling, but I still hope they stick the landing somehow and it leads to better and more diverse MCU projects going forward.
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Oh, I wish it was a true monster mash, that would imply some fun is going to be had. But even our actual monster mashes kinda suck, like I haven't liked any of the U.S. Godzillas or Kong/Godzillas. Green screen bullshit. You gotta tear up some sets, stomp some models. MCU has the same problem for me. So does Duny Duni Duné.

I mean, I hope for the sake of the people that like MCU stuff that Doomsday is good for them. I won't like it but also I only ever see these things when prompted by friends or partners, and I think at this point most of the people I know are treating the MCU like a particularly unfortunate teenage phase, so I'm safe. If I get some figures that are usable fodder for me, I'll be happy enough.
 
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