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Re: Spartacus - Spartacus predates Game of Thrones by a full year. Giving credit where due! Andy Whitfield was such a great lead I had such trouble swapping that I've never seen most of the last two seasons.

Re: Yellowjackets - S1 great, S2 huh?, S3 just felt like a TV show - the wilderness suddenly felt like a set by production designers - no longer felt real or threatening at all. Same with the overly-designed costumes. I was never a big fan, nor did I care about the mystery, so I'm glad that show is ending with the next season. The actors are all great (Lynskey, Ricci are soooo fun to watch), but the material just felt bad weird this season. And Young Shauna and the daughter aren't great.

Re: exercise shows - I feel this completely. I've had good luck lately with two sitcoms at a time to get to 40 minutes, but they have to have the right pace (and no commercials!). I don't know if anyone here would vibe with it, but I rewatched Glee on the elliptical and greatly enjoyed it again - it's a fast-paced show in general and then obviously the musical numbers get you moving. It's also hysterical, insane, heartfelt and colorful.
 

I guess this is the thread for it. I'm really curious how one show will tie together three properties. In comics they do it with 3 ongoing books and each of those has to balance focus on multiple characters.
 
Re: Spartacus - Spartacus predates Game of Thrones by a full year. Giving credit where due! Andy Whitfield was such a great lead I had such trouble swapping that I've never seen most of the last two seasons.
I'm in the same boat. I watched the first episode of the second season of Spartacus and just went 'nope, I can't do this and I don't like this new guy at all.' It was partly just not being able to settle in to a new lead, and also partly that the new lead felt like a huge downgrade.
 
Do you even pump, bro?

If you haven't seen the show yet:

Somewhere in the fourth or fifth episode, Ed starts a whirlwind relationship with the local hardware store owner, and when it's revealed that he likes wearing her brassiere, she says, "If you pump me good, Eddie Gein, I’ll let you wear my panties."

There's a lot of absurdity in the show that would be hilarious if Ed Gein weren't murdering people and digging up bodies. So far my favorite character is Tobe Hooper, and not just because I love Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
 
Just watched the premiere of Welcome to Derry. I spent the first five minutes thinking it was trying too hard to be shocking, the next half hour thinking it was a cheap money grab off one of King's best-known books, and ended it on saying out loud "this is the most fucked up shit I've seen on TV in years" and deciding even I, who have never looked at a content warning in my life, would only recommend it to people if they ABSOLUTELY FUCKING CHECK THE TRIGGER WARNINGS.

This is not a complaint, if you're going to go hard in horror you have to take risks, but Jesus H. Macy they hit a few visuals that are deep, deep, deeeeeeeep phobias for a lot of people I know and they do not pull ANY fucking punches here.

(EDIT: I will absofuckinglootly check out episode 2. I'm not 100% sold on it but they took some risks in it that caught my interest in a good way.)
 
I felt this way about The Fall of the House of Usher.
Fall of the House of Usher was probably my favorite single-season show I watched last year, so fucking elegant and profoundly grim and moving. (Gotta love how Flanagan can scare the shit out of you and break your heart in the same breath.)

Usher was terrifying and visceral and gasp-worthy. Derry had me saying I cannot believe they just fucking DID that. In at least three scenes, maybe more. Like, Usher pushed artistic boundaries, but Derry feels like it did something that broke social boundaries.
 
Jesus H Christ... I already wanted to watch Derry, we eve had the ITs on today in preparation for it, but goddamn now I can't wait.

Also Usher is one of the few Flanagan projects I haven't watched yet. So apparently I need to get on that
 
I gotta be honest, I'm totally exhausted by the IP-ification of mainstream art. Something like E.T. would never get made today.

The HBO brand used to mean something. Now they're leaning into IP like everyone else. The Chair Company still gets made, but all the budget goes to projects like Game of Thrones spinoffs, It spinoffs, and Harry Potter. Would Succession even get greenlit anymore? The fact that it's even a question is appalling.
 
That’s everywhere. We haven’t supported original art for most of my lifetime. Trying to selling a superhero IP when Marvel and DC flood the market and the only original stuff is metatextual parody concepts…
 
The HBO brand used to mean something. Now they're leaning into IP like everyone else. The Chair Company still gets made, but all the budget goes to projects like Game of Thrones spinoffs, It spinoffs, and Harry Potter. Would Succession even get greenlit anymore? The fact that it's even a question is appalling.
The Gilded Age is their own thing too, right? Then The Chair Company. And they still have Last Week Tonight.

I don't think it's actually THAT different from how it's been my whole life. These big HBO projects like Rome, Deadwood, Veep, Oz, Sopranos, etc were all largely paid for by HBO licensing huge blockbuster movies and being the only place you could watch those movies short of going to the video store. Now HBO isn't really 'the movie hub' anymore because of Netflix, but the concept is still the same in that they use established stuff people will almost definitely want to watch to bring in revenue and some of that revenue pays for new projects.

John Oliver used to joke constantly about 'that dragon money' whenever he did something expensive and ridiculous.

That isn't to say that new and original stuff isn't falling by the wayside a bit. It definitely is. BUT, I also think it's fair to point out that there's just so much more STUFF out there than there ever was before. There's entire websites devoted to keeping track of what shows are coming out, ending, getting new seasons, etc. Sometimes I wonder if it's not that we're getting fewer originals now, but that we're getting SO much established IP projects that it simply looks like we're getting fewer originals than we used to.

It's probably a bigger problem that the originals don't seem to last most of the time. And we could lay that at the feet of the production companies/distributors, but we could just as easily lay it at the feet of the viewers that don't tune in.
 
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