Hasbro possibly doing Tron?

RicksNerdLife said:
Because he wants it.

His objectivity (subjectivity? Potayto, potahto?) is outweighing the logistics.
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Fair.
We all know and love Adrien, and know how much he loves 1:18. I actually feel bad because if you're a more 1:18-focused collector, you get stiffed a lot more often than not. I can totally see where some defensiveness might come in at a potentially cool 1:18 project not just failing, but getting shit on in the process.

Which, I want to point out, I'm not shitting on the product. It looks cool. It just doesn't look like it earns that dollar value. Especially for people that aren't as intensely interested in 1:18 and/or Tron.
 
RicksNerdLife said:
Lol, ya know...I laugh, but you're probably right. And this is where *my* subjectivity comes into play, because that set is worth 150 MAX.
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Even that is generous. I'll quote myself for ease of reference:

"I can go on BBTS right now and get a 5-pack of Star Wars Vintage Collection Night Troopers w/ Enoch, AND an entire Mos Eisley playset for 123 dollars. That's not direct from Hasbro, either. That's including BBTS's profit margin mark-up.

I could get TWO Speeder Bikes, with drivers, for 92 dollars. That would leave me with 158 dollars, from the HasLab price here, to source two more articulated 4" action figures. No matter how you slice it, that price is something every toy collector should find absolutely fucking insulting."
 
It does look great and I was tempted by the pics - but let's be honest that they are using the same basic body (with some overlays) for the four male figures and a unique sculpt for Yuri, plus one mold for the Light Cycles. While I don't care about the reuse as it is appropriate in terms of the aesthetics, it does mean the development cost is not as high.

I compare this to the 1:18 O-ring Plasma series Ghostbusters - you can get the 4 main cast for $45 and the Ecto-1 for $60. Or the Mezco 5 Points sets where they tend to price out at $20 to $22 a figure - the Scooby Doo set has 8 unique sculpts (9 figures), the van and a playset for $180. Or the two Batman Animated sets would give you 8 figures plus the Batmobile and the Batcycle for $225. And I also thought about the Speeder Bike comparison as valid at $45 for a figure and small vehicle.

I think getting this to $260 requires using the high end of the pricing range for every aspect of it. That may be justified but it needs a strong case to do so. $200 - maybe with the base I would have jumped in.
 
ManOfTheLamb said:
I'm sad for the people who wanted this.
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Yeah. Let's clarify that those of us shitting all over this aren't shitting on the product or the people that want it to happen. It's more about shitting on how utterly tone-deaf Hasbro has been with this project and this franchise. They deserve to be made fun of relentlessly for how badly they've botched this. It sucks that the actual fans are essentially the 'victims' of this silliness.
 
I want the figures and the bikes. I would have preferred 1/12 over 1/18. I have absolutely no interest in the base, which only useful if you have a shelf where you can display it eye level, which my current Tron display is not. And yeah, I think it is way overpriced, but I backed it anyway, not that it matters.

Using tiers like they did with other Haslabs would have made more sense. Expecting 10k backers at this price for this property is simply delusional.
 
I just have flat out never liked Tron. I've watched it, it was a novelty visual for a long time, sure ahead of its time, but I'm mostly bored by it. It goes in the same category as Dr. Who for me. Fine if others enjoy it, more power to them, it's just never spoken to me beyond maybe a few sountrack songs from the second one.
 
RicksNerdLife said:
That's why. You don't know why we aren't digging this, so we are telling you. Very clearly not irrelevant.

Why do we even need to justify why WE don't want it? You do, clearly. We aren't asking you why you do. And we certainly aren't going to support it to provide you the opportunity to have it. Not sure what point your arguing is trying to achieve.
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Like Avatar, I always see a lot of love for Tron on the internet.

But never in meatspace. I have met people that were alive when it came out and as much as it's talked about how groundbreaking it is, nobody ever backs it up or talks it up the way Star Wars is. Hell, I hear film students talk up Abyss more than Tron when it comes to respecting the effects history.

And maybe Tron is amazing technically. I don't know. I always thought it was boring as a kid. The point is I have never seen any merch support for it. Even the Lego set languished and I was able to buy it on clearance which is very rare for a lot of Ideas especially since that was early on when it was a rarity to do licensed things.in Ideas.

And it's not just Tron. In video game space, there's always talk about how they should bring a franchise back because it was amazing and part of their childhood and halcyon days of their youth, and then someone brings that franchise back and nobody shows up to buy it.

That's how Tron feels to me.
 
altcunningham said:
Like Avatar, I always see a lot of love for Tron on the internet.

But never in meatspace. I have met people that were alive when it came out and as much as it's talked about how groundbreaking it is, nobody ever backs it up or talks it up the way Star Wars is. Hell, I hear film students talk up Abyss more than Tron when it comes to respecting the effects history.

And maybe Tron is amazing technically. I don't know. I always thought it was boring as a kid. The point is I have never seen any merch support for it. Even the Lego set languished and I was able to buy it on clearance which is very rare for a lot of Ideas especially since that was early on when it was a rarity to do licensed things.in Ideas.

And it's not just Tron. In video game space, there's always talk about how they should bring a franchise back because it was amazing and part of their childhood and halcyon days of their youth, and then someone brings that franchise back and nobody shows up to buy it.

That's how Tron feels to me.
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I just like Tron, no idea if was innovative or not, don't really care. I rewatched Tron and Legacy before seeing Ares, and I enjoyed all three. I don't get any deeper into that that. I had some of the Tomy figures as a kid (and have the NECA reissues now), so maybe that has something to do with it, at least that initial spark of interest.

Avatar, on the other hand, I can't get into at all. The first movie was ok at best, the second long and boring, and I don't think I'll bother with the third. The visuals are nice and all, but that alone doesn't make a movie for me.
 
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