U.S. Politics

TheSameIdiot said:
The next election is the test. Are we so internet-pilled that we can only vote for famous people? Do credentials matter anymore?

I have a feeling the next president will swing in the opposite direction because of how we collectively feel about Trump, but I wouldn't be surprised if we dig our heels in and do it again.
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I was about to say I read a thing... And then it was the thing you had shared the other day. Haha.
 
Chooch555 said:
I would 100% vote for Stewart precisely because he doesn't want it.
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Damien said:
I'd vote for Stewart because I would literally vote for a rotting piece of cabbage before I'd resign myself to Trump or anyone from his orbit being in the White House again.
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I would absolutely vote for Stewart as harm reduction, but only in that capacity. Same reason I've voted for most presidents I've voted for so maybe it'll happen. As much as his commentary was a part of my early 20's, he isn't actually experienced in governance. Not the way I want someone to be.

Honestly, I want someone with enough life left in them that they believe they might live to see improvement happen. I don't think that's Jon.
 
Damien said:
The most Christian things that the US government does at home and abroad are the things Christians want America to stop doing.
The most unChristian things that the US government does at home and abroad are the things Christians want America to do more.

Discuss.
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"The Mormon Tabernacle Choir is neither Mormon nor Tabernacle nor choir." -Linda Richman
 
May be an image of text that says 'The Scoiattolo @scoiatolo.mountainherder.xyz 35m Vanity Fair photographer knew what he was doing. (I doubt I'm the first to notice this but it hasn't gracea my my TL) ALT'
 
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Trump administration moves to dismantle prominent US weather and climate research center

The Trump administration announced plans to dismantle the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado.
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FCC Chair Brendan Carr clashes with Democrats in Senate hearing

In several tense exchanges with Democratic senators, FCC Chairman Brendan Carr denied accusations of censorship and defended his agency's actions against broadcasters.
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cancer for everyone?
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EPA PFAS News: Agency Approves Cancer-Linked Chemical for Use on Food Crops

This decision means there are going to be even more forever chemicals on crops like tomatoes, almonds, and oats. The post EPA PFAS News: Agency Approves Cancer-Linked Chemical for Use on Food Crops appeared first on Organic Authority.
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Goldbug said:
cancer for everyone?
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Why not? This is what AI means in the broader scheme, as example.

The government and these companies are outright resentful and frustrated they have to go through you to get your money. They will sell you toxic, hazardous, slipshod b******* if it saves them money all in the name of doing you a favor and giving you a reach around raincheck.

They are crowbarring every social, mental, health, and worker right and benefit they can en route to make these products and services create money.

They can't get a woman, or don't want to but are so brainwashed and closeted by the religious and societal systems in place, that at the end of the day they are just dismantling every system in the name of backlashing on women and making it harder for the people that can actually connect with a woman.

They complain about gender affirmation while getting their lips injected and their penis pills.

They are so afraid of acknowledging how behind they are in all aspects of global standards, they choose to deny other races and cultures a seat at this sinking table, basically putting a Band-Aid on a shotgun wound.

The blatant contempt the government and think tanks and corporations have for the people that keep them afloat in the first place is staggering. And the people willing to be complicit or take it, more so.

Of course they would hasten cancer. They keep pushing and no one is pushing back yet, and I'm the meantime they will take any blood they can from our stones.

Of course Trump is their idol with his failure steaks and colleges and casinos and presidency and vodka.

These motherfuckers invented Keeping Up With the Joneses and always had the intent to saunter back and kneecap you while telling you to play by arbitrary rules for reward.
 
Damien said:
my side-fear is that Trump has let the evil out in a way we can't put back in the box
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I hear that. That message resonates, too. The 2028 presidential slogan is easy: it's a return to decency, competence, and progress. Boil that down to six catchy words, and you've got a winner.
Damien said:
embolded the worst people by showing them that their votes can destroy the people they hate
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You might disagree with this, but there aren't that many truly evil people. You only get Joseph Goebbels or Stephen Miller because of the people and organizations that enable them. The Republican Party is awful, but it isn't Stephen Millers all the way down.
Damien said:
, and has simultaneously disenfranchised all the people that thought we were better than this and now don't even feel like there's value in fighting against it in the voting booth.
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The work starts in 2026. If we smash them at the ballot box, we prove a better world is possible. While I've been disappointed and disgusted by this country for a decade, I'm not interested in leaving.

I've loved my time in Europe, but I'm American af. They can pry it from my cold dead hands, etc.

The pendulum only swings one way for so long. It's past time for it to swing our way.
jonaskane said:
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/posts/pfbid02uCmZiCkZKep6EThnoM4C4Yy1ETFDWGEt9eJYg2mhcgjhtHcuKf2wBD7VReywm9gfl

This petty little motherfucker.
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I hope normies get wind of this. Normies love Obama.
 
Damien said:
The most Christian things that the US government does at home and abroad are the things Christians want America to stop doing.
The most unChristian things that the US government does at home and abroad are the things Christians want America to do more.

Discuss.
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The more Conservatives talk and do the more I understand why Jesus never went to Temple as an adult until the day He went to whip the ever-loving fuck out of all the hypocrite trash He found therein.

TheSameIdiot said:
The Republican Party is awful, but it isn't Stephen Millers all the way down.
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The only thing this sort of thinking gets you is a knife in the back. Why do I need anybody that voted for *any* Conservative since 1952 to be redeemed?
 
TheSameIdiot said:
I hear that. That message resonates, too. The 2028 presidential slogan is easy: it's a return to decency, competence, and progress. Boil that down to six catchy words, and you've got a winner.
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To me, the fact that you even need a slogan (and you definitely do) is part of why we're doomed.


TheSameIdiot said:
You might disagree with this, but there aren't that many truly evil people. You only get Joseph Goebbels or Stephen Miller because of the people and organizations that enable them. The Republican Party is awful, but it isn't Stephen Millers all the way down.
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I do disagree. Vehemently.
I mean, maybe I don't disagree with 'truly evil.' I reserve that for the worst of the worst. The problem is, there's clearly millions of TRULY TERRIBLE people that will always hand power to the evil ones. I do honestly believe that too high a percentage of human beings are exemplars of everything that sucks about our species. And until the 'good' ones do something about the 'bad' ones, the 'bad' ones will keep winning.


TheSameIdiot said:
The work starts in 2026. If we smash them at the ballot box, we prove a better world is possible. While I've been disappointed and disgusted by this country for a decade, I'm not interested in leaving.

I've loved my time in Europe, but I'm American af. They can pry it from my cold dead hands, etc.
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I talk about this at all because I am, even after 20 years in Canada, also still American with the most capital A you've ever seen. But my country is a massive disappointment to me, and to the world. And whenever we talk about making it better, there's always some really huge 'IFs' we have to get past. And then we DON'T and we move on to 'okay, maybe NEXT time will be better.' And every time we lose, the whole country moves further to the Right and never fully comes back again. I'm deeply concerned, as I've said before, that it's already beyond saving.
 
adrienveidt said:
The only thing this sort of thinking gets you is a knife in the back. Why do I need anybody that voted for *any* Conservative since 1952 to be redeemed?
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My point was that there are only so many heinous people to fill the Trump power vacuum. I'd argue that most of the ones who would as soon see every brown person dead in a ditch already work for the administration.

"What about his cultiest voters?" They aren't likely to run for president anytime soon. There are only so many Russ Voughts or Stephen Millers out there. I agree that Trump has enabled more of them, but I think they're few and far between.

I don't think red states are helping themselves, either. In their push for raving lunatics, they've alienated most of the country. You need to win 42-year-old white moms in suburban Georgia to win elections. Trump, despite being the biggest raving lunatic of them all, was immune to being seen as a raving lunatic. He's excellent on TV and video, and had more than a decade on a reality TV show that convinced viewers he was a business genius. He's one in a million in a way that Vivek Ramaswamy, JD Vance, and Kristi Noem are not.
Damien said:
I talk about this at all because I am, even after 20 years in Canada, also still American with the most capital A you've ever seen. But my country is a massive disappointment to me, and to the world. And whenever we talk about making it better, there's always some really huge 'IFs' we have to get past. And then we DON'T and we move on to 'okay, maybe NEXT time will be better.' And every time we lose, the whole country moves further to the Right and never fully comes back again. I'm deeply concerned, as I've said before, that it's already beyond saving.
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Yeah, I definitely get that. Yesterday I was thinking about how many things you "couldn't say today" (at least not without conservative pushback) that would've been fine in the '70s. They've been winning, basically nonstop, since Carter left office.

The Supreme Court neutered the administrative state that made this country so profitable and powerful. For a time, the administrative state made us the greatest country on Earth. Without the administrative state, we either A) fight and win to rebuild it, or B) watch the empire crumble.

The good news is, I don't think most Americans like what we've become. The polls about whether we're heading in the right direction as a country indicate that. I know you're going to tell me the process of converting polling to dumbass voters doing the right thing is arduous at best, and I agree with you.
 
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