Wrestling Toys (Mattel WWE, Jazwares AEW, etc.)

My brother texted to let me know he ordered me a Timeless Toni from Jazwares Vault. A color version for $25. Seems like it was dropped without out much notice other than an Instagram post. Free shipping at $50.

RSC created a shipping label for ECW Paul Heyman. I used to try to catch those 1 or 2 am ECW shows on MSG network.
 
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I got Ultimate Razor from BBTS today and .. I dunno. I feel like I'm a little mad at myself for expecting better. It's not BAD, really. It's just less than what I would have liked. The hips are a different skin color than the rest of him. The neck articulation is pretty meh for an 'ultimate' figure. I still hate these 15-year-old kneepads. The shape of the bootcut doesn't actually line up with the lower calves. The belt is too big and, as far as I can tell, the same tired belt they've packed in for 13 years or so?

Again, it's not a BAD figure. It's just a very 'Mattel doesn't try very hard' figure. I'm a HUGE Razor fan so I'm glad to have him. Probably wasn't a great idea to buy him as this starts me on the wrestling figures path again that I had totally sworn off of. Now I'm like 'well, if I have Razor I gotta have Edge, Bret Hart, Shawn, and Demolition.' Maybe I'll be smart enough to stop there.
 
I just want a good attitude era Stone Cold and I think I could be happy.

I regret not getting the last Lita that was decent though. And Hitman. I kind of need Shawn Michaels.
 
altcunningham said:
I just want a good attitude era Stone Cold and I think I could be happy.
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I'm legitimately fucking angry that we're finally getting a Wrestlemania 13 3-pack, WITH the 'in agony' Austin head..... and you have to buy a separate Ringside Exclusive Austin to get that head with a 'bloody' deco. That's fucking bullshit.


altcunningham said:
And Hitman. I kind of need Shawn Michaels.
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This is how they get ya'.
 
Lately Mattel has been remaking older figures but with double elbow joints and sometimes toe articulation. So it's a decent time to jump into this line and pick up some favorites.

All of the Stone Colds have been a little off for me. I love the head that came with this basic:

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It doesn't really look like him 100% but the vibes are there. I put this head and big arms on the HoF Elite with the jorts and to me that's kind of perfect.

The move to double elbows was huge for this line; I bet Bill had to make a whole new parts spreadsheet! :ROFLMAO:
 
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Wild that a wrestling line selling itself on scale accuracy and poseability didn't have double jointed elbows from the start.
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Were those common when the Mattel line began? I'm trying to remember when those first started showing up in big box figure lines.
 
secondwhiteline said:
Were those common when the Mattel line began? I'm trying to remember when those first started showing up in big box figure lines.
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In 2010? I guess it depends on what you mean by 'common.' We're living in a golden age of action figure collecting, so it's not like there were TONS of collector lines in 2010. But Marvel Legends had been doing double joints since 2003. DCUC was criticized for not having it, and started to incorporate it at the very tail end. SOTA used doubles for their Street Fighter line. MOTUC didn't have them for obvious aesthetic reasons.

So I'd say the benefits of doing double joints were well known in 2010 and only weren't really done for aesthetic reasons (both the big lines that didn't use them were the 4H, who suck).
 
I'd have to look, but I think Sota was very selective with double jointed elbows. I resisted Marvel Legends for a long time, all the way to The Toybiz wave with Hulkbuster, because I thought they we're too segmented looking. At the time, I thought double joints were fine when they were covered up with clothes on 12" figures. Marvel/Toybiz TNA was using double joints and I liked their take on it because the knee and elbow pads were in the sculpt.
 
mrboshek said:
Marvel/Toybiz TNA was using double joints and I liked their take on it because the knee and elbow pads were in the sculpt.
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To be fair, I STILL think the knee and elbow pads should be in the sculpt. Making them secondaries is almost certainly cheaper and easier, but it definitely makes the figures less playable.


mrboshek said:
but I think Sota was very selective with double jointed elbows.
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It was about 50/50. Their approach was that the thinner characters got them, and the bulkier-biceps characters got singles. So Guile, Balrog, and even Ryu, had singles. But Vega, Gen, Sakura, Adon, Remy, etc had doubles. I've never counted, but I think it worked out to around 50% had doubles, but it wasn't random or anything. It was just based on the figure's bulk.
And SOTA put deeper cuts into their single elbows than we would see from almost anyone else for -years-, so they had pretty good ROM as well. Something Mattel also did not bother to do.
 
Sota is what really pushed me back toward non 1/6 scale. I went through a phase in the late 90s to around mid aughts when I was mostly buying 1/6. My plan was to keep the action figure count low by spending more money on fewer 12" figures. That's where I saw double jointed figures for the first time pre toybiz.
I would look at the Marvel Legends and wrestling figures on the pegs and would be tempted, but I wasn't crazy about the execution. Sota figures on clearance at GameStop, the big chunk of ML Hulkbuster plastic, and Bruiser Brody open up the floodgates.
 
I LOVED my few SOTA figures and I loved early ML. I think it's mostly in retrospect that I look back and say 'they really weren't that great.' I mean, I knew it at the time as well but it's not like anyone was really out there doing it better, so it was hard to say 'they can do this like this instead.' Super-articulated toys in 2000ish were still fairly experimental. Makes sense that they sometimes didn't turn out looking so great.

I just don't think 2010-2025 toylines have that excuse anymore.
 
I just got Elite Lola Vice, and can't help but laugh at Mattel making sure she got the Naomi "fat ass" sculpt, considering how perplexing some of their buck selection and approach to scaling typically are.
 
secondwhiteline said:
Were those common when the Mattel line began? I'm trying to remember when those first started showing up in big box figure lines.
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Hasbro was giving us double elbows with the Return of Marvel Legends line in 2013, while Mattel didn't introduce double elbows into the WWE Elite line until 2021. So there's a lot of Elites I bought in the late 2010s that felt like they really should have come with double elbows.
 
I saw Karai Sane today. Rare to even find Elites for me, let alone one I want. But I skipped because they gave her studded glove hands and then just left it flesh. Come on.

I hope those guys have nothing to do with the DC line.
 
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