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mrboshek said:
I'm not an IP lawyer or intend to play one on a message board, but wouldn't a C&D have been more effective? I wonder if RS knew they didn't have a leg to stand on, so they just tried to create a public spectacle and embarrass the 4H? If you can believe the comments from random people on instagram, they were also receiving harassing dm's from the official Red Sonja account because they happened to comment favorably for the Horsemen. That doesn't seem very professional. I wonder if the Official Red Sonja account went rogue? Was the Instagram account speaking for the LLC? Back in the old days, celebrities used to have "Official" fan clubs, most of them were run by some guy out of a basement. Since the Horseman folded, the tactic worked this time. Like I said, not a lawyer, but focusing on the red hair seems questionable. Why not demand removal of the chain mail bikini bottom too?

... and I'm completely indifferent to the 4H, I have a bin of maybe a dozen figures in my closet. I bought a Savage Crucible figure about two weeks. It trounced ML.

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It's my experience all the social is run by Lieberman's wife, Shannon Kingston. They probably share it. She's the face to the crowd.
 
secondwhiteline said:
I'm no IP expert, but I'm under the impression it would be like with Mickey, where Steamboat Willie the work is now in public domain and the early design of Mickey is, so you can release things with that very specific original design or release your own copies of expired works like the Steamboat Willie short, but the name is still trademarked, and the combination of design elements still being used by Disney is still protected. So I guess theoretically someone could make Superman books with the Action Comics #1 Superman design and just not call him by his trademarked names?

Presumably it means you could reprint expired Action Comics issues, although I don't know if you'd be allowed to keep extent trademarks like "Action Comics" on the books.
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Trademarks are off the table, sure, but in the first issue of Batman you get Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Comission Gordon - and Robin and the Joker hit PD the following year, and honestly, the Joker of pop culture is basically the same Joker we meet in that first issue.

I think Superman and Batman going public domain are going to be very different than previous instances like Mickey or even Sherlock Holmes. I think we're going to see a lot of interesting new takes.
 
Poe Ghostal said:
Trademarks are off the table, sure, but in the first issue of Batman you get Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Comission Gordon - and Robin and the Joker hit PD the following year, and honestly, the Joker of pop culture is basically the same Joker we meet in that first issue.

I think Superman and Batman going public domain are going to be very different than previous instances like Mickey or even Sherlock Holmes. I think we're going to see a lot of interesting new takes.
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That's very possible. I'd love to see Superman and Batman get more weird, surrealist indie comics like Tom Neely did with Doppelganger for Popeye.
 
fac said:
It went from $50 to $40, so other two heads $10 and the body and accessories $30.

But I wouldn't assume the price reduction reflected the actual cost of the missing parts, more of a PR thing and needed to seem like a real discount.
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Nope, I retract my statement. You're totally right. For some reason I was calculating based on the figure going from 60 to 40, not 50 to 40. That was my bad. I know we moved on from that conversation, but I didn't want to seem like I was dodging that I made a mistake here.
 
There is a lawyer here that is already using Steamboat Mickey and Minnie in his commercials. He has it stated about 3 times during the commercial that Disney has nothing to do with the ad. Feels really sleazy using Mickey and Minnie like that but it seems to be legal as long as it stays within the bounds of what is public domain now. They do not refer to Mickey or Minnie by their names in the commercial.
 
altcunningham said:
It's my experience all the social is run by Lieberman's wife, Shannon Kingston. They probably share it. She's the face to the crowd.
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Makes sense, that's why I don't let my wife run my social media accounts har, har, har.




"Don't worry honey. I know you didn't mean to step on my mint in box collection."
 
The threats probably came from Luke Lieberman even though she's the face of the accounts.

Are there screenshots of all these other intrusions in the DM boxes? Or is it just people running their mouths?
 
altcunningham said:
The threats probably came from Luke Lieberman even though she's the face of the accounts.

Are there screenshots of all these other intrusions in the DM boxes? Or is it just people running their mouths?
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I heard Laserpants from 3poa say he's a copywrite lawyer. I googled Luke, rather than take the word of Ryan Laserpants, and it does appear valid. Google also says, "He is the son of an intellectual property lawyer who previously controlled the Conan the Barbarian franchise." See, I didn't know all that.

Just people talking about DMs. I didn't see anyone post evidence.
 

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altcunningham said:
The threats probably came from Luke Lieberman even though she's the face of the accounts.

Are there screenshots of all these other intrusions in the DM boxes? Or is it just people running their mouths?
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I’m getting a little skeptical of these DMs because nobody has posted screenshots


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Poe Ghostal said:
Trademarks are off the table, sure, but in the first issue of Batman you get Batman, Bruce Wayne, and Comission Gordon - and Robin and the Joker hit PD the following year, and honestly, the Joker of pop culture is basically the same Joker we meet in that first issue.

I think Superman and Batman going public domain are going to be very different than previous instances like Mickey or even Sherlock Holmes. I think we're going to see a lot of interesting new takes.
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Man, as someone who makes part of my living with superhero stories the last thing I want is Batman et al going public domain because then that's all we'll ever get until the end of time. Why write anything new and risky when you can write the Batman equivalent of that trashy Winnie the Pooh slasher flick that came out a year or two ago. We had what, four Sherlock Holmes shows running at the same time? Everyone using the same IPs because viewers/readers won't touch anything they don't already know all about is the most deeply boring reality we could possibly live in. And I say that as someone having a hell of a time writing up my own versions of GI Joe file cards - I want a world where we hunger for new shit, not the same shit reflavored into something because we can't talk anyone into trying a new meal.
 
docsilence said:
Why write anything new and risky when you can write the Batman equivalent of that trashy Winnie the Pooh slasher flick that came out a year or two ago.
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SyFy will be able to do a nonstop marathon rivaling the length of “EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!” just showing all the low budget Batman movies that are gonna come out the moment he hits public domain… and every single one is going to end with him turning around a playing card because they get to add that guy a year later in the even cheaper sequel
 
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