U.S. Politics

The good news is that we're onto them. The Supreme Court is a daily topic of conversation in ways that *it just wasn't* even 15 years ago.

The bad news is you can only break so many pieces off the ship before it begins to sink. We've been in precipitous decline since 2017. Every watershed election has gone the wrong way.
Damien said:
Just one of those days where all you can do is remember that the US probably has too many deep-rooted problems, from generations of politicians refusing to fix anything, to ever be a good country again. We're -going- to watch the US collapse entirely into fascism and become the new North Korea. It's happening right in front of us.
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You and I have disagreed about this before, and we'll disagree about it again.

I think full-blown fascism is a hell of a lot less likely now. I'll allow that it's entirely possible we enter into a military dictatorship if Trump loses in 2028 and consolidates his reign through a military coup. We have to hit a lot of "ifs" before we get there.

Soviet-style decline is far more likely. The American economy is the last major obstacle. I don't think you can have the best economy in the world in a failed state. A certain amount of wealth necessitates clean water, right?

If things get bad enough, blue states won't stick around. Ironically, states splitting off left and right makes our decline even more similar to the former Soviet Union.
 
Every day that goes by, I am more and more wanting California to just secede. I feel awful for all the folks trapped under red-state regimes, but I simply don’t want my fate nor the fate of my neighbors tethered to those regimes. I totally done trying to find “common ground”.
 
I don't want to see secessions, I don't like abandoning people to the cruelties of their own elected officials, but man there are days living in Mass where even the bad guys are relatively progressive it feels like there are worse things than abandoning ship. Like I wonder if we actually were on our own if we could fix our own healthcare insurance issues.
 
Well and wouldn't the hope be that people stuck in the red areas but want to move, could? I imagine after some years, there'd be a lot of migration both ways and after a generation, most people would be settled where they are happier.
 
It’s hard for me to even think of America as a ship I would be abandoning. Even in “good” times, I just can’t bring myself to have any loyalty to a country. I appreciate economic and social systems to the extent that they aid human beings, but I have no loyalty to those systems and never did. We could toss “America” and all of its traditions into the trash tomorrow and I literally wouldn’t give a shit.

The *people*: them I care about.

But I couldn’t care less about some made-up name on made-up map with made-up borders and made-up laws. Frankly (and I’m not accusing anyone here specifically of doing this), “loyalty to America and its values” is exactly what’s gotten us into this dystopian mess. Systems of government should be tools to be used and discarded as needed, not some “idol” to place on a pedestal for admiration and worship.

“America” is only good if it *is* good, and useful.

So, at present: fuck America.
 
Ru1977 said:
Well and wouldn't the hope be that people stuck in the red areas but want to move, could? I imagine after some years, there'd be a lot of migration both ways and after a generation, most people would be settled where they are happier.
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Changing states is hard, and if we start putting up barriers beyond that it'll only leave more people behind. What we really need to do is to have consequences for people who abuse their own constituents but I don't think we'll see that in our lifetimes.
 
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docsilence said:
Changing states is hard, and if we start putting up barriers beyond that it'll only leave more people behind. What we really need to do is to have consequences for people who abuse their own constituents but I don't think we'll see that in our lifetimes.
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Oh I know. I grew up moving every year or two, and that continued even as an adult until I met my wife, who severely resists moving anywhere else, so I finally got roots. So I recognize that while for me it's not big deal because I've just upped and left so much, most people aren't like that.
 
Ru1977 said:
Well and wouldn't the hope be that people stuck in the red areas but want to move, could? I imagine after some years, there'd be a lot of migration both ways and after a generation, most people would be settled where they are happier.
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The ethical way to do it would be to vote on new borders and offer an allowance for those who wanted to move. That won't happen. If states secede, it's going to be slapdash.

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Could go video games or chatter, but I'm here.

The algorithm is interesting. Been playing Kingdom Come 2. Great game. One of the leads (the lead) is a big alt right gamergate dude. Loves to troll and antagonize. I don't really care as far as the game is concerned at this point. Too many people work on these things.

However. Watching some YouTube content just to learn little tricks has put Kingdom Come into my formula. So more and more little tips and tricks feed in, and now I am getting the full on anti-woke butthurt alt-right video game stuff back on my feed, which then leads to that Jubilee chat with that Charlie Kirk looking dude who was all excited about coming out of the closet as a fascist in front of a room that accepted him, which also threw in some How To Be a Man videos.

And I thought that was hilarious because solely off of the thumbnail, the uphold Theo Von as the king of male active listeners and holding space, while also looking to late night host Craig Ferguson as the man who will land you any woman in bed if you follow his personality hacks.

It had to have been Kingdom Come content. That was my only "breach". I just thought that was interesting. The way politics and the algorithm work is interesting.
 
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