General Marvel Legends

RicksNerdLife said:
My kingdom for some mid to late 90s X-Men love.

I want a noseless, bandana wearing feral Wolverine.

I want an X-Men 2099 roster.

I want Mutant X.

Where's Mimic? Where's Skin? Where's Cecilia Reyes??

Give me it all!
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Best we can do is a new Jim Lee Psylocke.
 
PantherCult said:
Mutant X ... barf. That was the worst. I hated it so very, very Much. Howard Mackie can rot in hell for everything he inflicted on X-fans. He'd be the worst X-writer ever if Chuck Austen didn't exist...
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Howard Mackie? What did he write for X-Men besides Mutant X? I like to think I read a lot of 90s X-men and don't remember him writing too much of it. He did Ketch Ghost Rider, right? Didn't he write the first Gambit mini series? I thought that was ok. What did he do? What did he DO?!?!?

Now Chuck Austin......cringe. That's all I can say about that.
 
So, I will say this... I unfairly credited Mackie for X-Men Unlimited 4 which is just so, so bad - but it turns out that one was Lobdell. Mackie did write a couple of other issues of Unlimited, as well as Chromicles.... he was responsible for my least favorite X-factor run when Mystique, Sabretooth. and Wild Child had joined. And remember when he added Fixx, Archer and Greystone? Good times... He wrote X-Factor for its terrible final 30 issues, and sure he had the misfortune of following Peter David, but dear god...

And then he turned that title into Mutant X and barf.

He wrote the various Gambit and Rogue minis which were just such boring nothing burgers...

He's clearly not as bad as Austen, and maybe he's not even as bad as Ben Raab or Marc Guggenheim (apparently, I didnt read X-Men Gold)... but he's part of that era when so much of the X-Men got so terrible.
 
I like Guggenheim. X-Men Gold wasn't a big one for me, but his Blade run with Chaykin was great. I seem to recall liking other stuff with his name on it, then he went more into TV land.
 
X-Men Gold was tuh-herrible, but Matthew Rosenberg's run was even worse and happened around the same time so I think he takes the brunt of criticism that era gets.
 
I forgot about X-Men Gold and Blue. Ugh.

And I'm about to blaspheme--but I fucking hate everything Grant Morrison. Thus, his X-Men run was one of the worst things to happen to the X-Men (to me) in forever. It made me drop it from my monthly list until Astonishing.
 
I love Morrison as well. His Batman run is my favorite of all time.

I'm not a huge X-Men reader, and I remember trying to get into his New X-Men run. Hank McCoy is like being a weird pervert making "dead baby" jokes (not literally, but that was the vibe). I had to tap out and go read Claremont, which I'm glad I did.
 
I like Morrison on mainstream books - JLA was a hoot, Batman and X-Men were good. His creator-owned/indie stuff just leaves me scratching my head though. I could never make heads or tails of Seaguy.
 
Thor-El said:
Preach. I despise everything he did on the series.
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It was just like he went "I'm going to make everything weird just to be weird". It was such an about face on everything X-Men was.

And of course Quietly's art is God awful. Every character is so ugly. And to top it off, the boring black leather outfits...

Yeah, that era was pure dogshit.
 
NORM said:
Morrison is so polarizing. I feel like that whole era of writers just wrote stories that pissed so many people off. Bendis, Millar, Whedon, Ellis.
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It was kind of the "move fast and break things" of comics. They pushed characters of their comfort zones and changed status quos forever. Depending on your tastes, attachment to the characters, and what you want out of the medium, that was either awesome or anathema.
 
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